I’m writing this as my husband, Larry, and I drive back from our little hideaway in Baja. When we go, Larry takes care of most everything. Making the plans with our friends, grabbing the passports and pesos, prepping the car, schlepping bags; I love it.
That always reminds me how grateful I am to have finally learned how to appreciate a kind, generous, grownup man.
If I had met Larry a couple years earlier he would have been one of those guys I thought was too nice, too boring and too old. (He hadn’t even traveled out of the US for goodness sake! He didn’t have friends he hung out with. And he’s 9 years older. Ugh!) I wouldn’t have even agreed to meet him.
Luckily, by the time our paths crossed, I had learned that the way I had been judging men was really silly. And those judgments were keeping me from meeting high quality, marriage-minded men.
(He’s too nice…really? How can that even be possible??)
I felt almost immediately that Larry and I were a good match. I never would have been open to getting to know him had I not learned these important lessons about what to expect from men.
After I was dating after 40, I asked that question constantly. I hear it from coaching clients all the time. So many decent, grownup men seem so nice and so boring! It’s disappointing and such a turnoff.
Here’s the simple answer that I finally learned:
It’s because they are GROWNUP men. And you are counting on old dating rules.
Understanding these men’s different life experiences and, therefore, points of view will open you up to extraordinary new opportunities for LOVE.
Women and men are actually alike in a lot of ways. But when it comes to socializing, men are completely different.
Women go out to eat, shop, travel, go to plays, chat over a glass of wine, take classes and join book clubs…all with our girlfriends.
Men don’t do any of that. Their socializing exists around sports or some physical activity. So if a man plays golf or sails (like Larry) he may partake in some regular activity and socializing.
Otherwise, a man who is dating after 50, 60 and beyond can have a pretty quiet life.
This doesn’t necessarily mean they are a doofus, friendless or dull. It means that they haven’t been able to just call up a dude friend and say ‘hey Bob, I’d really like to see Paris. Wanna plan a trip?” Or wanna see a play, or have dinner? It’s not what guys do.
That means that when a man doesn’t have a woman in his life, especially if he’s retired or semi, he may not be doing much of anything.
But that doesn’t mean he WON’T!
My 65-year-old client met a 71-year-old widower. Together they are traveling the world and running marathons. He wasn’t doing either when they met.
And it’s not like she had to ‘make him’ do it…he loved adding that to his life! And he turned her on to things he loved to do, but needed a partner to do it with.
So the KEY is…
when you meet a man (or look at an online dating profile), don’t nitpick what he’s doing and not doing as much as what he wants to do, or is open to doing.
You may not see all this on the surface. If you like other things about him and he shows potential to have your must-haves, be willing to dig a little, sister.
Learn about him by sharing what you’re passionate about or what you want to do next…then pay close attention to his response. You’ll learn what he’s interested in, even if he hasn’t done it yet.
I see this all the time: men, especially older ones, are thrilled to let us open up their world! And to be able to share his with you. It’s likely that they have been waiting for for a long time.
Men and women have a lot in common. We also have some fundamental differences.
We can’t expect men to be like us. If you can open your mind and learn more about how they think, live and love…you will start seeing the good guys I keep telling you about and that my clients and other students keep meeting.
Can you relate? Have you met these guys? I’d love to hear your thoughts about what I’ve shared. Makes sense, doesn’t it? Will this help you change the way you judge some dates?


Bobbi Palmer says:
Hi Mia. I can tell you that after 4 months if you’re not digging him ‘that way’ you aren’t going to. What you’ve shared is pretty common. You want a good guy but just aren’t attracted to them, yes? You need my Fix Your Man Picker course, sister. This is exactly what you’ll learn. That thing we can’t explain that attracts us – it’s our lizard brain telling us what to do instead of our Grownup woman smarts and heart. Check it out here: https://datelikeagrownup.securechkout.com/choose-better-men
Mia says:
Hi Bobby, I love your site and I think you give great advice. Here’s my thing. I’m 41 and I actually feel like I WASTE time with these really good guys. For example… I’ve just been seeing a really nice guy for 4 months. And I’m just waiting and waiting to finally be really into him. I’m trying but it’s not working and I’m not happy. I’m not happy with a nice man- a man who puts me first, who does all of these things that you talk about above. Of course it is not *because* he’s nice, the point is, I think sometimes the reason we are attracted to someone is not immediately obvious. How long is long enough to give someone a good chance and move on if it’s really not clicking for us?
Bobbi Palmer says:
Way to go, Rose!!! I LOVE when smart women like you stay open and let this new information in. I’m glad you’re here and am honored you allow me to support you. Hugs. Bp
Rose says:
Just finished you article about old dating rules keeping you single as well as listened to this weeks podcast with sandy on a similar subject. I realize I have not appreciated enough the man I’ve been dating for past 6 months. He knows what he wants, is very kind and generous and his actions speak louder than words. He wants to make me happy and create a meaningful partnership. Yet, I have been thinking he’s too old and where are all his friends?. Your article opened my eyes to the fact that I’m operating with my old set of dating rules. Yes, he has started golfing again with me after an 8 year lapse when he was caring for elderly parents. He also wants to travel with me, go to my college football games, support me when I have the burden of caring for my elderly parents and my early twenties children. I guess I am the one that needs to date like a grown up and appreciate that older men are different than the immature exes of my past. Thx for sharing your insights
Bobbi Palmer says:
Hi Janet. All good questions! Too many to answer here, but here is some help. First, please read my article Why Dating Older Men Seems Boring & What You’re Missing If You Don’t. Or maybe this article: https://datelikeagrownup-com.mystagingwebsite.com/want-to-meet-men-take-action/ You see…that ‘vibe’ you’re giving off is keeping men away. You can meet men everywhere and anywhere when you show up as an open, friendly women who is clearly wanting to meet a nice man. Janet: Please PLEASE register for my upcoming webinar: 5 Unrealistic Expectations You Have of Men that are Keeping You Single. ( This is for you and I want to help you!! Hugs, Bp
Bobbi Palmer says:
Hi Aaron. I’m SO delighted that you shared this. Thank you. From what you shared, you are FAR from undesirable! You’re one of the good guys who can seem boring…and who I tell women to pay close attention to. (By the way, it’s not that you are undesirable, Aaron. It’s just that some women have these old ideas of what an “attractive” man is. Believe me, if they’ve hung out here with me, they know that reading how you describe yourself you are a man who deserves attention!
This is what I talk about in my article Why Older Men Seem Boring & What You’re Missing. So tell me, were you to have a wonderful woman to hang with, what ELSE would you be doing? Just like women, I’m sure there are things you are interested in but would rather do with a partner. Please help educate us; what might those things be?? Seriously…will you please share with us? Glad you’re here and thanks for your comment.Bp
Jen says:
I appreciate you perspective on this, Bobbi. I’ve complained about how the men my age seem to have no “game” at all. But then I think of some of the great 50+ men I know and see that you’re right. My brother is a perfect example: he surfs and golfs with his buddies, travels with his kids but otherwise sticks to work and the gym, or spending time with family. He’s a great grown-ass man and will be a great catch for some lucky lady!
Aaron says:
If only you could upload this to all over 40 women looking for over 40 men for serious or committed relationships. I will be 49 in a few months and yes Bobbi, I am boring. I don’t skydive, travel every weekend, or hike like it’s a second job. I don’t do yoga, dance classes, then cap it off with a vineyard event. I don’t have my dream job that I love more than life itself. I don’t hang out with friends and post pictures of so many people I need to explain in a sentence or two which one is me. I don’t spend the remainder of free time with my kids. Where do women find the time to do all of the above? More so, if their lives are so fulfilled WHY are they on _____.com dating website?
I do have a great job. My career has peaked. I am successful. What few friends I do have are married and don’t do “singles” kind of things. I go to baseball games. I go to football games. I’m not afraid to go to the movies by myself. I spend a lot of time with my son but he has a life outside of me. Other than that I mow the lawn, exercise to live, take care of my self, and watch tv. People tell me I am attractive.
All this uneventful activity in my life makes me undesirable and overlooked. Tossed into a proverbial bargain bin. I am polite and courteous. I believe chivalry is not dead. I don’t listen for the sake of waiting for a pause so I can talk about myself. All this makes me even more undesirable, just “nice” but not what their looking for.
Why do women over 40 present themselves to the dating world like this? It seems they prefer to present themselves as they wish to be or hope to be if more time passes?
Janet says:
Yeah, but where do you meet them? I look on dating sites and, you might call me too picky, but it’s men that are likely to just bore me. It’s men who can only give one word answers. It’s men who don’t give any answers apart from their age and maybe where they are and that they speak English.
It’s kind of crippling me at the moment. I would like to meet someone outside of the internet dating world (yes, I have seen men following an online chat), but I’m not the sort of woman who gets hit on. I was once told that I just kind of gave off the vibe of being taken. Fab.
But there is another part of me that is asking what the heck are you on, girl? You have a nice house of your own. You have lots of interests. You can walk into an situation by yourself and not feel overwhelmed. And I have a peripatetic lover, who gives me what I need on a fairly regular basis.
But that isn’t going to last. And it also doesn’t give me the support that I need. Or the companion that I want.
I also don’t want a guy who worships the ground I walk on. That’s just creepy. I want an equal not a supplicant.
I feel invisible.
So, let’s get down to the question. How can I present myself to attract men to talk to me and want to take me out. I can take it from there. Or bungle it from there. It’s just getting there in the first place.